"Royal Family, Episode 6: Uncrowned Marriages (Documentary)" says the title. Intriguing, but not as much as intended.
Reading the title, it's unclear why uncrowned. Morganatic? One expects to hear of Battenberg and other similar royals who made matches outside the strict caste rules. But it's only about the royals without thrones, and more specifically about two siblings of Alexandra and Dagmar, the Danish princesses who were queen of England and the last but one Czarina, respectively.
Most interesting, though.
Very unexpected, the two famous princesses of Denmark had a sister not known generally, and almost immediately it's obvious why 0:00 - 8:16 - she fell in love with a mere army officer, which was bad enough since her sisters were to be Russian Czarina and british Queen, respectively, but that wasn't enough, she had a daughter before marriage too, so of course the royal mob hides the whole thing by not mentioning her! But the daughter was to be put up for adoption? That's too much. Was the royal child to be given away to just anyone? Or was a suitable royal couple found to adopt her?
Comment below the original YT video by someone, worth quoting, about the adopted out daughter of Thyra:
finehomemadewine
OK, I was wrong: "Princess Thyra´s daughter named Maria was born on 8 November 1871. Apparently, the child was adopted by a Rasmus and Anne Marie Jørgensen and Maria was renamed Kate. In 1902 Kate married Frode Pløyen-Holstein. They were apparently childless and she died in 1964."
Amazing, Alexandra the granddaughter from Hesse wasn't the only one to refuse to marry a son or grandson of Queen Victoria 8:16-19:00 - so did princess Thyra of Denmark and even the impoverished Marie of Orleans of the royal Bourbon house!
Marie's Danish Prince husband Valdemaar was offered the Bulgarian throne, but turned it down 19:00 - 20:19 - presumably this was a generation before a Battenberg, a brother-in-law of princess Victoria of Hesse, had to leave it for reasons similar but not quite exactly the same?
"In Russia, Valdemaar's sister in law Dagmar ..." 23:11 - 23:16 - arent the two actually siblings, born siblings, without the "in law" bit?
The princes locking up the servant between two panes or pelting a stoker with coal, not funny, but the various different things Marie did, especially the fireman bit 23:16 - 28:43, not just delightful but much more! No wonder Denmark was charmed for ever.
"Marie had acute pneumonia" and died of it 28:45 - 31:50 - perhaps Valdemaar ought to have taken the Bulgarian throne, after all, which might have given her a chance at a longer life!
"Anne, former queen of Romania" speaks of Marie as her grandmother 31:50 - 32:16, does that mean that Marie, the queen of Romania who was granddaughter of Queen Victoria and also of the Czar, had a son - or grandson - and heir, who married a granddaughter, of Marie the Bourbob princess from France and wife of Prince Valdemaar of Denmark? Or did Romania change royals somewhere along the way?
Marie's granddaughter married a Bourbon prince 32:16 - 36:15, would that be a second cousin, or are there plenty of descendents so it need not be that close a cousin?
So son of Thyra, nephew of the then Princess of Wales Alexandra, married Queens Victoria's great-granddaughter Princess Victoria of Hohenzollerns 38:45 - 42:35, yet another intermarriage connection. But Thyra herself had married Ernest Augustus who was dethroned out of Hanover by Kaiser Wilhelm the grandson of Queen Victoria, and since Queen Victoria herself was a descendent of house of Hanover, the new couple were of course cousins - third, or not even third?
This couldn't be the last time all the heads of state from Europe were together 42:35 - 42:50, unless this was after the funeral of Edward VII. In another book that's written as Princess Victoria of Hesse the protagonist (autobiography, or not quite, don't recall), she mentions Kaiser Wilhelm making it a point to be as rude to the Battenberg relatives as he could without it getting personal, was it this wedding?
So it was Maximillian, the prince of Baden, and son in law of Thyra, who brought about abdication of the Kaiser Wilhelm after he was made chancellor by him in hope of a solution after WWI, by simply announcing it 42:50 - 44:03 - this family was quite instrumental in key events, for all the relative anonymity since!
Being the duke of Cumberland and supporting Austria during WWI, 44:03 - 44:50 how did he expect to continue the contradiction, and why the surprise when the ducky was taken away? That was probably the least the British could do to ma royal relative under the circumstances! After all, if Germany hadn't jumped into the war and more, the royal mob would not be suffering severed connections, and if Germany hadn't deliberately set Lenin to go to Russia, Nicholas and Alexandra might not have been murdered with the children and other close relatives of the British royal family. And the royals of both Britain and Russia were nephew's of Thyra, for that matter.
Responding to a comment below the original YT video by Susan Rybak:-
"What about Louise, is she not the mother-in-law of European royalty?"
Rachel Garber:-
"Susan Rybak I guess because of patrilineal descent, the father's line is the one that counts so to speak."
Correction - they do call Queen Victoria grandmother of Europe for similar reasons, but not her husband; so it's not gender or patrilineal descent but the actual monarch rather than the spouse, must be the criteria.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=h-P54cv5v70
Reading the title, it's unclear why uncrowned. Morganatic? One expects to hear of Battenberg and other similar royals who made matches outside the strict caste rules. But it's only about the royals without thrones, and more specifically about two siblings of Alexandra and Dagmar, the Danish princesses who were queen of England and the last but one Czarina, respectively.
Most interesting, though.
Very unexpected, the two famous princesses of Denmark had a sister not known generally, and almost immediately it's obvious why 0:00 - 8:16 - she fell in love with a mere army officer, which was bad enough since her sisters were to be Russian Czarina and british Queen, respectively, but that wasn't enough, she had a daughter before marriage too, so of course the royal mob hides the whole thing by not mentioning her! But the daughter was to be put up for adoption? That's too much. Was the royal child to be given away to just anyone? Or was a suitable royal couple found to adopt her?
Comment below the original YT video by someone, worth quoting, about the adopted out daughter of Thyra:
finehomemadewine
OK, I was wrong: "Princess Thyra´s daughter named Maria was born on 8 November 1871. Apparently, the child was adopted by a Rasmus and Anne Marie Jørgensen and Maria was renamed Kate. In 1902 Kate married Frode Pløyen-Holstein. They were apparently childless and she died in 1964."
Amazing, Alexandra the granddaughter from Hesse wasn't the only one to refuse to marry a son or grandson of Queen Victoria 8:16-19:00 - so did princess Thyra of Denmark and even the impoverished Marie of Orleans of the royal Bourbon house!
Marie's Danish Prince husband Valdemaar was offered the Bulgarian throne, but turned it down 19:00 - 20:19 - presumably this was a generation before a Battenberg, a brother-in-law of princess Victoria of Hesse, had to leave it for reasons similar but not quite exactly the same?
"In Russia, Valdemaar's sister in law Dagmar ..." 23:11 - 23:16 - arent the two actually siblings, born siblings, without the "in law" bit?
The princes locking up the servant between two panes or pelting a stoker with coal, not funny, but the various different things Marie did, especially the fireman bit 23:16 - 28:43, not just delightful but much more! No wonder Denmark was charmed for ever.
"Marie had acute pneumonia" and died of it 28:45 - 31:50 - perhaps Valdemaar ought to have taken the Bulgarian throne, after all, which might have given her a chance at a longer life!
"Anne, former queen of Romania" speaks of Marie as her grandmother 31:50 - 32:16, does that mean that Marie, the queen of Romania who was granddaughter of Queen Victoria and also of the Czar, had a son - or grandson - and heir, who married a granddaughter, of Marie the Bourbob princess from France and wife of Prince Valdemaar of Denmark? Or did Romania change royals somewhere along the way?
Marie's granddaughter married a Bourbon prince 32:16 - 36:15, would that be a second cousin, or are there plenty of descendents so it need not be that close a cousin?
So son of Thyra, nephew of the then Princess of Wales Alexandra, married Queens Victoria's great-granddaughter Princess Victoria of Hohenzollerns 38:45 - 42:35, yet another intermarriage connection. But Thyra herself had married Ernest Augustus who was dethroned out of Hanover by Kaiser Wilhelm the grandson of Queen Victoria, and since Queen Victoria herself was a descendent of house of Hanover, the new couple were of course cousins - third, or not even third?
This couldn't be the last time all the heads of state from Europe were together 42:35 - 42:50, unless this was after the funeral of Edward VII. In another book that's written as Princess Victoria of Hesse the protagonist (autobiography, or not quite, don't recall), she mentions Kaiser Wilhelm making it a point to be as rude to the Battenberg relatives as he could without it getting personal, was it this wedding?
So it was Maximillian, the prince of Baden, and son in law of Thyra, who brought about abdication of the Kaiser Wilhelm after he was made chancellor by him in hope of a solution after WWI, by simply announcing it 42:50 - 44:03 - this family was quite instrumental in key events, for all the relative anonymity since!
Being the duke of Cumberland and supporting Austria during WWI, 44:03 - 44:50 how did he expect to continue the contradiction, and why the surprise when the ducky was taken away? That was probably the least the British could do to ma royal relative under the circumstances! After all, if Germany hadn't jumped into the war and more, the royal mob would not be suffering severed connections, and if Germany hadn't deliberately set Lenin to go to Russia, Nicholas and Alexandra might not have been murdered with the children and other close relatives of the British royal family. And the royals of both Britain and Russia were nephew's of Thyra, for that matter.
Responding to a comment below the original YT video by Susan Rybak:-
"What about Louise, is she not the mother-in-law of European royalty?"
Rachel Garber:-
"Susan Rybak I guess because of patrilineal descent, the father's line is the one that counts so to speak."
Correction - they do call Queen Victoria grandmother of Europe for similar reasons, but not her husband; so it's not gender or patrilineal descent but the actual monarch rather than the spouse, must be the criteria.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=h-P54cv5v70
