Opposition Claims Support To Military

These comments, and my response to comments by others, were related to the politics being played out by the opposition where they claimed to oppose the government and support the military, despite their latter claim being evidently fraudulent.
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Responding to a comment below the original fb post on Republic tv page by Ghulam Mohammad Bhat

Ghulam Mohammad Bhat

"Every human beings will condemn killings in KASHMIR.... " 

Kashmir only? How about three million in East Bengal, thousands in Baluchistan, terrorist attacks around the world from Sydney to Paris to N.Y. to CA, millions killed in india in name of faith by conversionists last millennium and half, killings of security force personnel by terrorists in Kashmir, pakis targeting civilians in Kashmir by not only shelling but snipers shooting babies and children, .... or is killing of anyone by Muslims not to be condemned by your law? How about murder of Daniel Pearl and other US personnel by terrorists? Invoking humans and humanity for convenience of public support, shutting up everyone about East Bengal '71, Baluchistan, and every other murder by terrorists in name of killing for faith? Fraud! 

Responding to a comment, and another in the following discussion, below the original fb post on Republic tv page, about citizenship and trauma re rg 

Small corrections - One, Ashok Majumdar, it wasn't birthplace, but yes, immediate registration as citizen of Italy after birth due to the mom calling ambassador in Delhi, as per information by Dr Subramanian Swamy; that citizenship isn't surrendered, not as of his Harvard stint, and as per discovery by Arnav Goswamy team a year and more ago, rg personally claimed UK citizenship on tax forms submitted in UK while he was MP in India. So yes there is much questionable, in both current and ex president of congress cases, probably the rest of them too.

Two, Yash Pal Sehgal, everyone can sympathise with trauma of the little boy, but if that deserves PM position of India, you have to in all fairness either invent a few thousand copies of India or do a public lottery, for he isn't the only one with sacrifices for nation by family and trauma thereof. Let's begin with family of Lakshmibai the Queen on Jhansi, or better yet, Prithviraj Chauhan; go on till every Indian soldier martyred on duty through history is included. What are you blind in your feudal loyalty? Being PM of India or any other position private or public is about ability to do work, not family history, unless this is your non Indian, western style caste system, of royalty and aristocracy and landed gentry and loyal peasants. Not India! 

Responding to a comment Bolusani Dilip Kumar Gupta - 

offering PM position to jinnah was Gandhi's doing, I believe Richard Attenborough did his research and did not lie in his film, and congress habitually obeyed Gandhi even when they did not like it, as in various examples before and after independence. Avoiding partition might have avoided the bloodbath and had a stronger India. But really partition wasn't doing of the ancestors of current residents of pak, and jinnah merely profited from it. Reality, it was planned in finality the day USSR - and not US or UK - tanks rolled into Berlin, planned by Churchill, as per tarek Fateh - you should hear him. U.S. and UK needed a secure country with unfettered use of military bases, to be used against USSR, Jawaharlal Nehru refused to give such permanent bases in india, jinnah promptly said yes when asked, hence pak. Ever thought why he always refused everything asked when he was offered the exact thing? When offered PM position he demanded whole cabinet to be league! Jawaharlal Nehru has been wrongly blamed by some dissatisfied congress leader of yore for partition to equate him with jinnah. But as per very high spiritual authority he, Jawaharlal Nehru, was an honest, sincere man of good heart, whose soul is united with India after his leaving his body. The same spiritual source also suggested to congress leaders then to accept the alternative proposal by a British leader to avoid partition, but Gandhi was too egotistic to accept it, and refused it by saying those that did not work with him had no business making suggestion. There is much hidden under the usual story by congress, but targeting Jawaharlal Nehru or suspecting him is the usual easy - and incorrect, but safer - direction! Yes, he made mistakes, of an honest good heart, he ought to have had Bose and Patel with him, which was not to be because of Gandhi sidelining them and removing them from positions of authority they were elected to. The three together would have been far better. And as for Indira Gandhi, whatever her mistakes or faults, her rescue of East Bengal must count as stupendous humanitarian victory in face of heavy odds. She too had the same spiritual backing, but lacked the courage to go further and complete the task. One may question if return of the 93,000 POW without conditions was smart. The war criminals were promptly sent to execute the same mission in Baluchistan. There too India nade mistakes earlier, and those and other similar ones could have possibly been avoided if only India had the benefit of more than just one decent Jawaharlal Nehru leading, if only the wise and bold Patel, and courageous, intelligent Bose, were together with him. 

Responding to a comment below the original fb post on Republic tv page about Indian ancestry, loyalty, etc:- 

Really it isn't about whose parent isn't Indian, much less about race - India has loved and adopted so very many who loved and adopted India with true heart! From Sister Nivedita to Tom Alter, countless, and more - but when a lie about citizenship and more is perpetrated and that too at level of those trying to be PM, it has gone too far. Ever wonder why there is so much attack against young minister Ms Smriti Irani, and even against PM Narendra Modi of India, re education? It's simply because the current and ex president of congress have been exposed in this regard too, apart from the citizenship question, by Dr Subramanian Swamy, and later by Arnav Goswamy team a year and more ago 're citizenship of the current congress president. Now there is a barrage calling him well educated! Hear them, and who sound not quite all there, or even lying, and who come across consistently erudite, true, reasonable and concerned about India? Former, always pushing rg, always against BJP; latter, those not branding BJP falsely! Being able to claim a certificate or show a thesis alone usually wont guaratee a position teaching in a good university, even, unless an interview by a panel of experts can see the qualities of the person claiming the education. By those criteria a very different picture is evident, one obvious to everyone who has heard the various people mentioned here. Funny, never thought then that one day one would come to think that the younger of the two sons of the then PM was not so bad, but the prospect of her grandson with half his DNA sourced from axis is far too terrorising. Jawaharlal Nehru had ruled, in case of the Holkar family, in favour of the descendent with purely Indian roots to inherit the title. Even if the position of PM of India were by inheritance, and it should not be, surely the rule should not be different? 

Responding to a comment below the original fb post on Republic tv page, by Yash Pal Sehgal, re sacrifices by family:- 

Yash Pal Sehgal, position of PM of India isn't inherited nor is it awarded by ancestors's sacrifices, but if that deserves PM position of India, you have to in all fairness either invent a few thousand copies of India or do a public lottery, for he isn't the only one with sacrifices for nation by family and trauma thereof. Let's begin with family of Lakshmibai the Queen on Jhansi, or better yet, Prithviraj Chauhan; go on till every Indian soldier martyred on duty through history is included. What are you blind in your feudal loyalty? Being PM of India or any other position private or public is about ability to do work, not family history, unless this is your non Indian, western style caste system, of royalty and aristocracy and landed gentry and loyal peasants. Not India! And what's more, Jawaharlal Nehru himself had decided in favour of the descendent with purely Indian roots to inherit the title of Holkar family when he dealt with the dispute of two descendents, surely that rule must be good enough for his descendents if the position of the PM of India were hereditary for any reason, which it is NOT? But those pushing for rg aren't even loyal to Nehru legacy, only bought by money and slaves to racism, forgetting that the dangerous half DNA of rg isn't even half but in fact full axis! So if you are beating the drum of blood, then no India should not be ruled by a descendent of fascist blood much less worse than fascist DNA, as per information by Dr Subramanian Swamy. You must be completely ignorant about nazis, SS and about DNA to think heredity of a quarter Nehru and another quarter more Indian makes it wipe off the axis half. But if it did, you would value all the descendents of Jawaharlal Nehru equally, not forgetting one who IS purely of Indian roots. 

Responding to a comment below the original fb post on Republic tv page by Bolusani Dilip Kumar Gupta, 

re your "Pandit Nehru denied PM post to Jinnah caused to seprated nation", do get over this accusations conveniently levelled against a convenient but incorrect target! Partition was inevitable once Cripps proposal was refused by Gandhi, unless the whole government were given to jinnah, not just jinnah heading a democratic government of India - he was firmly with feudal interests, they funded his league and weren't about to be part of democracy, and got high positions in pak just by handing over suitcases filled with cash. Do get over the propaganda against the good man spread by the interests that did not rue partition of India, only that of the particular minority, hence blame Nehru. Do hear Tarek Fateh, and do once for all realise you are indirectly supporting a horrible man who ordered direct action day in Calcutta which killed ten thousand (mostly Hindus) by knives in three days of killings, to force Gandhi to accept partition, while you are of the stupid idea that such a guy (and not a good man that Jawaharlal Nehru was) was better for India! 

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Axis DNA Justification Of Terrorism!

This was the time the so called youth keader and so called opposition leader  - his party lacks necessary numbers in parliament  - yet again opened his mouth and dispelled any doubts in minds of everyone, except those blinkered by a feudal loyalty, when he spouted the pious sounding words to the effect "unemployment and lack of education makes youth into jihadists", speaking about ISIS! Obviously no one told him about the Mark Twain quote!
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Hypocrisy Of Congress President's Temple Tourism Sandwiched In Bashing Hindus And India! 

RahulISISComment | #2019MandirCard | BJP questions Rahul's 'India bashing'. 

Arnav Goswamy is raising pertinent questions, but they are far behind the facts as discovered and spoken of by Dr Subramanian Swamy, publicly, more than once. 

For one, neither the current nor the ex president of congress are citizens of India, with plenty if evidence of their having had and used other passports but none of any been surrendered. So their political positions as elected MP in India are thereby frauds perpetrated on India. 

Two, rg hadhad a grandfather even less known in India than Feroze Gandhi who is generally not mentioned by the family. As per information unearthed by Dr Subramanian Swamy this unknown or lesser known grandfather could not have been the Italian Mr Maino who was in Siberia as a POW during the relevant years, but could have been a German soldier, even an SS personnel, at a camp in a village of Italy at border with Switzerland. Which is quite dangerous in every way conceivable. 

Jihadists have included a number of well educated persons with professional qualifications, born and brought in well to do families settled in West. So much for the unemployment logic inherited in the axis half DNA with typical fascist logic of "we don't want workers' unrest about wages, so give jobs to unemployed young guys by creating brown shirts and pick some black shirts" ; as for rg calling Indian culture names falsely, when is india going to accept India isn't his culture or country, merely the estate he's trying to claim ownership to? 

A comment worth quoting below the original fb post on Republic tv by Rama Krishnan:- 

"Rahul met Kamalhasan before going to Germany and the result is palpable

"Rahul Gandhi answering students’ questions in Germany:
"Student: What do you think should be the role of Germany on the Syria issue
"RG: Well, this is a very good question. Both US & India’s economy is based on farmers. US is rich, India is poor. We will empower women
#Fact" 

Responding to a comment below the original fb post on Republic tv by Dipankar Sarkar:- 

"Yes.. But why some particular community joining to ISIS? Not other community. Is job is the only issue to join Isis? If so, then all jobless youth of our country could join Isis." 

All jobless youth - why only youth, say all poor, so, about half a billion? Am thinking how transformed the organisation will be with various celebrations, Navraatri, Gurupornimaa, Vatapurnimaa (there must be plenty of married unemployed Indian women, who love their husbands enough to do that), Janmaashtamie and Dahi handi, Ganapati utsav, Dasaraa, Deepaawalie, Sankraanti, Holi, .... oh, isis will be a fun organisation with no time to fight! If the idiot with his half DNA of axis were correct. If. He isn't of course. He's merely exposing his axis half of DNA. 

Responding to a comment below the original fb post on Republic tv page by Navin Kumar Chaudhry:-

"Why BJP alone should question India bashing? Why is India being degraded by any person abroad? It hurts. Hindus go to temple to tease women, crime against women is because of Indian Sabhyata- why should Modi bashing become India bashing. Shame." 

Navin Kumar Chaudhry - good point, and it shows the bankruptcy of the opposition intellectual and moral, in their going whining abroad with filthy lies about India, lapped up only too conveniently by various agencies. This strange behaviour of the opposition was all too evident in the early attempts to set fire tomthe country, as evidenced in JNU and award returning. 

Responding to a comment below the original fb post on Republic tv page by Yash Pal Sehgal:- 

"Shamanth K Shivaraju Soon the chaye wala p m will be unemployed in 2019 rest is up to the people of India to whome they elect pm pakore wala to bilkul nahi ok" 

Those who express such disdain for honest work and worship at the feet of scamsters who rob a poor country while keeping several passports and claiming India as if it were inherited estate by fraudulently pretending to be citizens, well, they expose their worship of dishonest colonialist regime slavery don't they! 

Responding to a comment below the original fb post on Republic tv page by Denny Thayil:- 

"Premkumar Raghav Kartha who is an Italian? Rahul is an Indian citizen and Sonia is a naturalized Indian citizen...so who are the Italians you are referring to?" 

Neither the current nor the ex president of congress are citizens of India, it's a fraud being perpetrated by the axis DNA pair while India tolerates it for sake of Jawaharlal Nehru and his daughter; there never has been any evidence of either of the mum and son surrendering any other passports but plenty of evidence they have had and used them. Their being MP under the circumstances is fraudulent, and claiming India as if it were an estate to be inherited for colonial,rule, a scandal. But slaves drooling over colonial regimes can only lie on their behalf, and abuse the Indians who might prefer honest alternatives to such dynastic pretensions of India.

A comment worth quoting, below the original fb post on Republic tv page, by Meena Aggarwal:- 

"India's first unemployed person is pappu nd now he is very frustrated. Lo bhai now he is becoming terrorist nd join ISIS. Now ISIS tu to finished bcoz pappu is coming to join u" 

Responding to a comment below the original fb post on Republic tv page by Amir Moiz:- 

"Modi ka Godi media. R.G better, talented and qualified internationally then Modi." 

"R.G better, talented and qualified internationally"????? 

- Seriously, guys, this about someone who was arrested in Boston on arrival for undeclared thousands of dollars in cash and spent the night in prison, was admitted to Harvard only due to the quota for children of certain families but was thrown out in less than a year, "graduated" from an unknown "college", in Florida of all the places - why, no respectable university or known college would take him? - in, off all the subjects, "religion"?? 

And suddenly then not an "M. Phil.", after a bachelor's, in a short time, without an M. A., and only via a "thesis", with no examination, so the thesis could have been simply done by someone else and emailed, which is obvious every time he opens his mouth to utter anything not written before him! 

Get serious. India is tolerant, not stupid. You are worshipping someone fraudulent who is not a citizen of India, is perpetrating frauds, claiming India as an estate to be inherited for colonial rule and has advantage of money stolen from India. Worshipping the pennies thrown at slaves, or is it race, or just the fraud? 

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Fraudulent Attacks By Opposition

Ever since 2014 when the UPA government of a decade of scams was toppled - and how! Rg was barely elected, with a mere 4,000 odd margin, over a newcomer in his family constituency! - the said newcomer to politics, Ms Smriti Irani has been attacked, viciously, politically and personally,  by the opposition. This goes even more venomous on the internet, where bots hired by opposition carry on the attack, with fraudulent Indian sounding names, as they sit elsewhere.

The initial attack of course was by the other sibling who asked famously who this person was, which is highly ridiculous - or reprehensible, depending on the honesty of the question, since Ms Irani, as her married last name clearly shows, is wed into the same small community that the late PM Indira Gandhi was, at least as per official information - and so they might, in fact, be related!

As for questioning education credentials of those evidently as erudite and intelligent as PM Narendra Modi or minister Ms Irani, that's even more hypocrisy coming from those busy at feudal worship of the clan, where one great grandson of the late PM Jawaharlal Nehru is the first after him to possess a degree for certain, and not via some trick, but it's not the opposition leader, it's the cousin they pretend isn't part of those entitled to the dynasty cake that they think India is.
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Whether the anchor or the comments below the yt video, funny, they seem to have selective amnesia. Is everyone pretending the UPA decade had a real PM, not a mask for power behind wielded by someone not even a high school graduate, who was stopped from being PM due to constitutional obstructions, which are furthermore multiplied in view of the fraud perpetrated against india by the current and ex president of congress who are neither of them citizens of India? Are the degrees claimed by the son real, in that did he and not someone else do the work required? Certainly doesn't show in his speeches! What about the UPA railway minister from Bihar, was he qualified? If so, as what - an engineer, or even a train driver? Signal man?

How about the previous generation, did PM Indira Gandhi or her son the subsequent PM have any degrees, from anywhere? He worked as a pilot, but is said to have received education, not qualified with a degree. And this, for three generations post PM Jawaharlal Nehru, in his family, despite all the possible backing, financial, social, prestige, admissions everywhere just for asking! They only had to show having required qualifications.

Varun Gandhi, as a lawyer, is probably the most educated after his great grandfather.

And with what face, what chutzpah, do the opposition then question BJP, PM Narendra Modi, Ms Smriti Irani and others - having accepted for decades the Bihar CM couple? If the husband is in jail for Fiddler scam, wife is made CM by him, and neither can show a degree. Or speak properly.

The anchor did have exactly the innuendo in mind that the minister, Ms Smriti Irani, pointed out explicitly. Stop pretending. There are comments enough below the video abusing her explicitly.

And for all that, neither she nor any other minister of BJP, least of all the PM, have shown any deficiency in either public speeches or interviews or debates, of being either well infirmed or able to think and reply with erudition. Unlike the Sicilian family with axis DNA including possibly German, possibly SS, who Are always losers in any such event. As are most of their colleagues, including the educated and intelligent ones, simply because the whole of congress party is doing feudal, racist, slavish servitude to Sicilian scamsters.


Responding to a comment below the original yt video by An Indian
"Ye bhade ke tattu hen jo aage baith ke modi modi chilla rahe hen...jaisa filmon me dikhaya jata he vaisa hi ho raha he is desh me... "

They are demanding an apology, quite rightly - "maafi " is their insistence for the anchors behaviour. Pretending to be deaf is usual,with congress.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=suQ58_ag8xM

Re "MASSIVE CONTROVERSY: BJP Takes On Rahul Gandhi For Allegedly Saying He Doesn't Believe In Any Form Of Hindutva"

This might seem old going by date, but isn't going away as long as the attempts to colonised India via so called Trojan Horse, or rather as the phrase goes, need to beware of Greeks bearing gifts, which in this case, not Greek but Italian - and possibly full axis - is far more dangerous a ploy.

Here was my own thoughts and comments on the topic, while the extensive drama by the opposition leader - whose citizenship of India is, quite possibly, even very likely - non existent - goes on:-

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To begin with, he has an Italian passport - as per information by Dr Subramanian Swamy, his mom phoned Italian embassy at his birth and had him registered as citizen, to which he is entitled automatically as her son - and possibly also a British one, since he did claim UK citizenship on his tax returns filed in UK; possibly others as well, since according to information dug up by the highly astute Dr Subramanian Swamy, his other grandfather might have been a German soldier, possibly an SS personnel (since the grandmother was visiting her mother's village near Swiss border where a German military camp was present with SS personnel, as her own husband then was in Siberia for several years as a POW), so he is automatically entitled to a German citizenship as well, if that paternity is known to say ODESSA or it's dozen counterparts by any name or without; if the grandfather in questioned survived and fled South of Panama, there might be another few possibilities of citizenship there.

In any case the Italian passport existed, was used to travel to Boston where he got arrested for illegal possession of thousands of US dollars in cash without declaration, and there is no evidence of having ever surrendered it, nor any other.

Which amounts to his claim to Indian citizenship a fraud perpetrated against india, since he is not merely living in India , which he could as a non citizen, but - not only prime estate in New Delhi, but - in one of the two houses occupiedby his late grandmother in her capacity as PM of India, but also occupying an MP position, which is illegal; and, this fraud being not enough, he is moreover claiming, publicly, his entitlement to her position as a matter of heritage, as if India were a family estate to be claimed, and that too for a colonial regime!

How about asking if he would claim his other heritage, if it were indeed all Maino, to being interned in Siberia as a POW? Or, which is more likely, if it is indeed SS, is he planning to turn India into a camp run by SS?
India has to stop wearing rosy blinkers of nostalgia about the so very beloved PM Jawaharlal Nehru, and realise, fast, that a great-grandson has other DNA, in this case not merely the lower half of the axis which is Italian, but possibly a quarter German too, so half his DNA is the whole axis.

And now, ask yourself, isn't his drama of playing to the gallery of naive or stupid viewers by doing temple run for elections, merely disdain for India, since it's quite unlikely he was not baptised as a baby, which amounts to his pretension of being Hindu by mere heredity fraud?

His mum, during her rule from behind veil of letting someone else be PM, was all but set to pass a sharia-like legislation, which would amount to any complaint by anyone of the two powerful minorities - specifically those associated with ex colonial regimes - against any Hindu, resulting in the Hindu being imprisoned promptly without legal rights. This right to complaint was moreover one way and did not extend, for example, to even another monority complaint against the said two specific ones, never mind any question of any rights of anyone not minority.

How likely is it he won't do it if India were so stupid as to risk an axis half DNA PM just because we loved his great-grandfather the PM Jawaharlal Nehru?

Responding to a comment below the original fb post on Republic tv page by Kishan Sharma:-

"No one is barred from visiting temples except just 2/3 like Jagnnath temple where Islamists/Christians are not allowed."


Allowing anyone in or not is typically up to the ones in charge, and yes Puri is one where others aren't allowed, but there might be others. You might have one in your home, it's up to you to allow anyone or not, even if it's monarch of another country or even your own.


Responding to a comment below the original fb post on Republic tv page by Rajasekhar Reddy:-

"what is your problem if doesnot believe in hindutva?"


Fraud is the problem. Their citizenship claims are fraud, since there is no evidence of having surrendered any other passports despite clear evidence of possessing at least two between the two of them. About religion, if they aren't Hindu fine, if they have other religion or atheist fine, but fraud is not, especially when it's just to fool public for votes to get on with scamming. Claiming PM position as if India were a family estate, that too stating it in Berkeley, if that were not fraud with chutzpah well, it is delusions with clowning.


https://www.republicworld.com/india-news/politics/massive-controversy-bjp-takes-on-rahul-gandhi-for-allegedly-saying-he-doesnt-believe-in-any-form-of-hindutva

https://www.republicworld.com/india-news/politics/massive-controversy-bjp-takes-on-rahul-gandhi-for-allegedly-saying-he-doesnt-believe-in-any-form-of-hindutva

JV Vs Law Students On Respecting National Anthem

JV spoke at a law college, presumably in a question and answer format, at length,  about the then very hot topic of standing up for the national anthem.

In this regard it might be apropos to refer to the speech at RSS convention by the Sarasanghachaalaka, Mohan Bhagwat, who referred to anti national movements and firces behind them, and asked people to reflect on what the said forces are attempting to achieve via destruction of India as a nation.

Obviously it's about taking control, and not for life of India, but for draining India for benefits of their own. 
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Standing up for national anthem is reminding this "lawyer" of nazis?

Would he dare loll about during anthem elsewhere?

The moron is either idiotically stuck on the word "nation" 10:00, or is pretending to be so, but seriously could he travel to China and publicly give slogans telling the Chinese to not salute the flag and not stand for the anthem? Or is he willing to go public in india declaring chins is nazi?

By his definition, are mosques all Nazi, since they do enforce half a dozen times, no allowance for freedom of either dress or speech or any other conduct that's not in accord with those rules?

JV assumes 10:00 - 10:30 the moron knows anything about European history, or flatters him for avoiding a debate on that topic, but it's unlikely this guy knows anything other than the propaganda that uses terms like "freedom of soeech" that the morons are attracted by due to not thinking.

About EU 13:00 - 13:45, actually its other way round - indua is comparable with Europe in diversity, and in fact has far more diversity than Europe, and EU is Europe attempting to emulate the example of India with baby steps.

JV hits the nail 15:00 - 15:30 on head!

The lawyer 18:00 - 18:30 asks why he has to express his love for his three children identically; the question to him should be, how about their freedom of choice of expression, which might be - instead of calling him dad or papa, or doing pranam, or anything considered appropriate - hitting him on head with a hammer, or mooning him in public, or setting fire to his bed while he is deep asleep?

Flag is just cloth 19:15 - 19:42 like koran is just squiggles on processed wood pulp and those protesting the anthem are tomorrow's " ashes to ashes, dust to dust".

Would this guy 20:22 "express his diversity" in church by going against the decorum, say, by playing drums?


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Eultr6gLUuI

India And Forces Against

This was a post worth notice , on FB , and some comments mine, and mine responding to some of those by others:-

Quoted from the original post:-

"30 दिसम्बर 2017 को एक आदमी बैंकाक से केरल के कोच्ची हवाई अड्डे पर आता है ..

जैसे ही वो इमीग्रेशन पर पासपोर्ट देता है तो कम्प्यूटर में चेक करने के बाद महिला इमग्रेशन अफसर उससे उसका नाम बोलने को कहती है, वो आदमी बोलता है .. नाम PP पर लिखा है .. वो अफसर डाँट के बोलती है बहस नहीं नाम बोलो .. वो नाम बोलता है .. इमीग्रेशन अफसर तत्काल उसको अपने सीनियर के हवाले कर देती है ..

पूरी रात वो आदमी हवाई अड्डे के उस कमरे में बैठा रहता है ..सुबह की पहली फ्लाइट से वापस उसको देश से निकाल दिया जाता है .. रात भर वो आदमी केरल से लेकर दिल्ली तक के हर बड़े कांटेक्ट को फ़ोन करता है लेकिन उसकी दाल नहीं गलती .. केंद्र सरकार से सीधे आदेश है और IB के लोग हवाई अड्डे पर जमे हैं ... कोई कुछ नहीं कर सकता .. 100 साल से ऊपर पुरानी कोंग्रेस पार्टी के लोग उसको घुसाने के लिए हर जुगाड़ लगाते हैं ... लेकिन मोदी सरकार में कुछ नहीं कर सकता .. मोदी की सीधे निगाह है ...

इस आदमी का नाम है Henri Thipagne और मदुरई स्थित NGO People's Watch नामक संस्था का फण्ड प्रोवाइडर हैं ... ये NGO धर्म परिवर्तन का काम करती है ... ये आदमी भारत में लगातार कई वर्षों से आता जाता रहा है .. इस पर IB की रिपोर्ट 2010 से ही थी लेकिन किसी ने कुछ नहीं किया ... 2016 में ये मोदी सरकार के रडार पर आया और अब ये ब्लैक लिस्टेड हैं .. भारत में घुस नहीं सकता .. और उसकी NGO के पैसे अब यहाँ नहीं चलते ..
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Greenpeace नाम सुना होगा .. वही जिसने भारत में Kim Davy को प्लांट किया था .. वही किम डेवी जिसने पुरुलिया में हथियारों का जखीरा गिराया था .. वही किम डेवी जो संसद पप्पू यादव की गाडी में बैठ कर भागा था .. जिसको HM की गाडी दिल्ली लेकर आई थी और उसको भारत से भगा दिया गया था सुरक्षित ... ये काण्ड नरसिम्हा राव के जमाने में हुआ था ... इसी greanpeace के CEO Ben Hargreaves को भारत विरोधी कार्य के लिए सितम्बर 2015 को भारत के हवाई अड्डे पर आते ही भगा दिया गया था .. इसी ग्रीनपीस की एक्टिविस्ट प्रिया पिल्लई को भारत छोड़ने पर बैन लगा दिया ... ये एक्टिविस्ट मध्य प्रदेश के माहन में आदिवासियों का धर्म परवर्तन का काम कराती थी .. नाम प्रिया पिल्लई हैं लेकिन ये ईसाई है ...
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2015 में मोदी सरकार ने 1145 NGO का लाइसेंस ख़त्म किया .. IB के रिपोर्ट के अनुसार ये NGO भारत में धर्म परिवर्तन, पैसे देकर प्रदर्शन, बलवा कराना आदि का काम का ठेका लेती थीं .. इनके इस काम से भारत के GDP को कम से कम 2% का नुक्सान कराया .. और 20 लाख से ऊपर परिवारों का धर्म परिवर्तन कराया ...
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भारत में बलवा, दंगा, धर्म परिवर्तन, उद्योगों का विरोध कराने के लिए विदेशी धन से चलने वाले NGO के मकड़जाल ऐसा था कि प्रति 400 बलवाकर्मी लोगों पर एक NGO की टीम थी .. इन लोगो ने 2013 में भारत में लगभग 80000 करोड़ का फण्ड का निवेश किया .. इन पैसों से चर्च, मस्जिद का निर्माण, प्रायोजित RTI करने वालों का खर्च से लेकर प्रोपगंडा का बजट शामिल था ..
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मोदी सरकार के समय 2015 - 16 में लगाम लगाने के कारण रकम घटकर लगभग 18000 करोड़ रह गया .. 2016 - 17 में और घटकर 6800 रह गया .. 2017 - 18 में ये 4000 करोड़ से नींचे जाने की उम्मीद है ..
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ये सारा पैसा कहाँ लगता था ? ये पैसा उन लोगों को मिलता था जो हिन्दू आतंकवाद शब्द के जन्मदाता थे ... इन्ही लोगों की प्लानिंग और इशारे पर कर्नल पुरोहित, कर्नल पठानिया तथा अन्य सैनिकों को जेल भेजा गया ... मोदी सरकार में ये इज़्ज़त से बाहर हुए और इनका सैनिक सम्मान वापस मिला ..
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इन पैसों से ये तमिलनाडु में ईसाईकरण करते थे .. मदुरई के मिनाक्षी मंदिर हो या कांचीपुरम, चेन्नई का विष्णु मंदिर हो या महाबलिपुरम .. ऐतिहासिक ताम्बरम हो या अड्यार ... हर जगह मंदिरों के सामने या बगल में चर्च और मस्जिदों का जाल बिछाया ... ये सब उस UPA सरकार के कार्यकाल में भयंकर रूप से हुआ ...
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मोदी सरकार ने डायनासोर की दूकान पर ताला लगा दिया तो ये चमगादड़ बन के फड़फड़ा रहे हैं ." 

Perhaps it would be well to recall that UPA government was returned to power, surprisingly, in 2004, despite a good stint of NDA government with economy in much better shape, during the bush years, when millions were diverted by him towards the conversion activities - it's quite enlightening to read the couple of books published written by Arun Shourie on the subject, with his usual impeccable research and integrity, his recent surprising statements notwithstanding. 

Responding to a comment below the original fb post on the original page, by Sateesh Pathak, asking why those people of other religions can't be converted by temptation similarly:- 

Here is a difference. How easy is it to get some youth addicted to alcohol or worse, by peer pressure in name of being cool? Everyone knows. Is it equally easy to get youth to do science to aspire for Nobel prize winning work? Huge difference. Converting to a faith by fear of life or need and temptation is one thing, and such conversion can only be in one direction. The other direction is not simple, not easy. Because it's transformation, the other direction, not conversion.

There is an interview of a well known atheist woman, named Aryan Hirsi Ali, by Tarek Fateh, who asked her why she decided to be atheist if she had to give up being muslim, why not convert to Judaism. Her reply, very intelligent and very true, is hilarious too. She explained that converting to Judaism is almost doing a doctorate, unlike converting to Islam which only requires uttering one sentence, after which she added "And now you're muslim, try and get out of it"!

Reality is, in islamic law, leaving the religion invokes death penalty, to be delivered by anyone - I.e., anyone can execute that person and it's legal. Does this answer your query about why converting a muslim for temptation doesn't work? Those who do convert to church, usually from being fed up with flaws in islam, thereafter live in fear of life.

Basic difference however, is, that every single branch of these two faiths teaches one thing most forcefully, which is, "everyone else is going to hell", which, in addition to the enforced taught superiority of monotheism and other such imposed guilt and fear, is the lock preventing the exit venue usually sufficiently. 

Responding to a comment below the original fb post on another page, by Rajesh Pareek

Rajesh Pareek "पर, सर, विजय माल्या, शाह.... और कौन कौन.... अनगिनत नाम हैं जो लूट कर मोदीजी के ज़माने में विदेश भाग गए !!??.... एक छोटी मछली को पकड़ लिया तो ढोल पीटने लगे.... How Funny !!??" 

Loot was ongoing during UPA who were friends, if it were possible now to be unafraid they wouldn't have run. Either you are too much if a simpleton to understand this much, unlikely, or are attempting to spread a lie. There is a complete turnaround reflected in these guts running vs Quattrocchi being helped to flee by his friend. 

Re "Faith, Reason and Inner Engineering: Jaggi Vasudev, Javed Akhtar at THiNK 2012"

This debate on stage had a grandiose name much more fraudulent than the usual fraud they expected to expose, but they had not counted an encounter with someone with intelligence, thought, and wit, rather than the conversionist abrahmic insistence on faith. So those spouting supposedly against faith looked like screeching despots instead!
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Interesting - the yt channel is "tehelka tv", opens with a threatening visual of a swarm of crows coming at the screen with raucous crowing, and then the screen - after acknowledging credit to a dozen or so sponsors for just a few seconds - says

"Faith, Reason, and Inner Engineering

"Five Star Fixes

"Ancient Technology for the Morden Mind

Shoma Choudhury"

So one knows what one can expect, and limitations thereof, from the "Morden Mind" of Shoma Chaudhury and the guests she will make amply clear she favours!

But what is with these hosts and platforms who have this morbid need to misinform and mislead the unsuspecting general public by deliberately and pretentiously using names of engineering, algebra at al, while they are pursuing the agenda of breaking up India?

She speaks, making the debate seem like another fashionable stage thing amongst other topics such as films and art, but then the screen goes into another raucous series of crowing disturbing an invocation of Kaalie with a mantra rather well sung, and other stuff disturbing it! Did these people think this was theirs to do a free collage of sounds? Would they dare do this to something of another religion associated with an ex colonial regime, or a power West of India?

Disgusting.

Javed declared, early on, that he will wait, and "finish". Fifteen minutes and more, and he comes in declaring "anything devoid of reason, .... that is faith".

He thinks 18:53 he defined faith and killed all those who have faith in anything, with that statement. Truth, while encompassing his words, is far wider. He just hasn't thought about it.

Faith is when anyone claims they know their blood relatives. As simple as that.

For, only a practicing geneticist with a laboratory of one's own can ever prove or disprove such assertions, to the satisfaction of the said geneticist - anyone else simply has to either take their words or conduct one's own experiments to find the evidence.

JV 23:10 uses gentle wit and Javed has no clue he was smashed! He responds by insulting personally - but gies too far when Shoma Chaudhury brings up Ramanujan and his mathematics via the drems of the Goddess who gave it to Ramanujan, and Javed goes "He was human, he couldn't have been right about everything all the time"! This, he doesn't realise, is putting himself above someone whose work he, Javed, could never hope to comprehend? His ego is really making him not merely abrasive but stupid. Funny thing is, he survives only because he faces someone who isn't using his power to retaliate.

Javed gets further abusive 26:50 describing "spiritualism is debris of faith", after having equated all those of faith with jihadist killers! So his stance has nothing to do with reason, but only to smash all faith and spirituality because of his own religion producing jihadists and sanctioning their despicable conduct, which he reacts to with an "if my religion is bad, I must insult all those who have anything that sounds like faith"!

JV, again, went far beyond 31:34, but it's unlikely the other has capability to comprehend, much less a chink in his ego to allow him to see perception better and higher than his own.

Javed gets abusive instead, attacks, and then 34:00 uses psycho terms with an analogy of a house for mind. Funny, but for his rigid stance of attacking, he woukd see his limitations, and folly of his arguments, immediately - through his own imagery! - For he'd realise that a house has air and space, and it's the walks that limit one's experiencing the air, space and more thats beyond the house everywhere.

Shoma Chaudhury talks about a film titled "fake guru", a documentary, and asks JV to comment. He could respond, of course, by mentioning fake practitioners in medicine, for example! That doesn't invalidate medicine, nor do fake drugs invalidate pharmacology.

Javed - whether deliberately or from stupidity - confuses 43:00 "why I am in this universe", the question that begins spiritual seeking, with the obvious "how was I conceived", bringing down the level of discussion as he has been doing repeatedly, whenever he speaks.



A comment, worth quoting, below the original yt video about the debate, by Deepa Singhal:-

"Javed Akhtar shows himself as an intellectual, but good this program is shown which proves he is a frustrated moron trying to bank on Sadhguru's popularity among people -
1. Akhtar beliefs there is North Pole so that is correct. But when countered that not long ago it was believed that Earth is flat - he had no counter BUT attacked Sadhguru out of context
2. Akhtar said he "knows" there is nothing beyond limit of reason. But when countered with Ramanujan's equations of black hole and other complex mathematics when many of these terms including "black hole" didnt even exist at Ramanujan's time, Akhtar could only manage a reply "Ramanujan understood it in language he knew, not Hebrew", seriously what?! - He again falls flat on his face with no answer BUT attacked Sadhguru
3. Akhtar said he "knows" only that exists which is reasonable to mind, on being countered that someone saw flying a possibility which was unreasonable at that time, he again fell flat on his face with no answer BUT attacked Sadhguru
3. Many of Akhtar's arguments are verbatim copied from Sadhguru's previous talks - " I do not know", etc.
4. Lastly, Akhtar says he is against faith, Sadhguru also said he is against faith so what is the debate about?

The moderator in the end says the debate was between men of faith and men of reason, Sadhguru has always been against faith/belief, while Akhtar said he supported belief. She cut Sadhguru when he pointed out her error. Was this a sham, to solely attack Sadhguru without logical arguments.

Akhtar dodged all questions asked by the moderator and tried to attack Sadhguru each time irrespective of questions asked. Akhtar appears sweating, frustrated, lacking counter-arguments, on the verge of being abusive to another guest - to which moderator had to tell to maintain aesthetics and "do not indulge in personal attacks". Pity you Akhtar and the organizers, next time go with your mind and manners to some other program coz its beneath the stature of an intellectual to debate with a fool."


Responding to a comment below the original yt video, about the debate, by Himalaya Nirjhar Sarkar:-

"Any statement that isn't backed by science or has been proved, peer reviewed or lacks a scientific understanding needs to be discarded. Sadhguru is the flagbearer of such nonsensical spiritual bs."

Interesting. So your parents couldn't have cared about you, and vice versa, because it's not published in a journal peer reviewed? Which by the way is true of your ancestors' existence too, if your name is true. No tombstones and no church records imply no existence as per your post.


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FpL_kSEHOco